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'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby wvhunter on Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:38 am

Right in our own neighbourhood: :eek:

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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby Rock_Rat on Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:32 pm

"On the box, it said: caution, poisonous and hazardous, use with care," said Lt. Andy Klotz.


Gotta love that. Although the reporters melodramatics's in the video where entertaining as well. Especially the part about the "So called game".
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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby scoutingwv on Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:56 pm

Darn muggle.
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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby 89SC on Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:55 pm

"Inducing a panic" Unreal. America has gotten so wimpy. This shows why caching containers need to be clearly marked, especially the military ones.
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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby wvcoalcat on Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:34 pm

I had this long-winded post ready to go but lost it to a power blink. The Cliff Notes (or whatever they're called) post is as follows:
It's being discussed (if you can call it that) on the main GC board. However,this post sheds some light on the issue

I've also seen these posts on a newer WV *series*.

FTF .... WELL KINDA. I'm the FTF the sign taped to the lamp post that says "STOP PLAYING THE GPS GAME HERE. THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. WE WILL CALL THE POLICE !!!"

The item was given to (cacher) to replace the item in a different location. Placing a camo plastic container, under a light pole within five feed of a kerosene pump at a heavily used gas station was not a good idea. Really when you consider the number of "shootings", "robberies", and "other dangerous acts" at gas stations, people tend to get worried.

This last one appears to be from a LEO in the area.

If you know me you know I'm not preaching fire and brimstone against urban hides. I've found out that everyone doesn't or can't find the time to visit Bambiâ„¢, just an itty-bitty bit of common sense is all that's needed. Well, that and a few more beers (perferably after one has made the hide/find) :lol: .

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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby Aquacache on Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:44 pm

89SC wrote:... This shows why caching containers need to be clearly marked, especially the military ones.

That's the biggest problem in this case. Along with the fact that it was near the bridge and water treatment plant.

Remind me again ... why do we have caches in guardrails? :roll:

My favorite part was the "...could hear something beeping in his pocket." :lol:

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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby familyfrog on Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:37 am

Aquacache wrote:
89SC wrote:... This shows why caching containers need to be clearly marked, especially the military ones.

That's the biggest problem in this case. Along with the fact that it was near the bridge and water treatment plant.

Remind me again ... why do we have caches in guardrails? :roll:


I agree with 89SC, this has more to do with common sense being used (or not being used) by the owner of the cache than anything else.

It has nothing to do with the fact that the cache was in a guardrail. Would the situation have been any different if the container was hidden under a pile of rocks/branches next to a big-a$$ tree alongside the guardrail? I don't think so.

I'm glad the situation was taken seriously by local law enforcement.
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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby Aquacache on Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:42 pm

familyfrog wrote:I agree with 89SC, this has more to do with common sense being used (or not being used) by the owner of the cache than anything else.

It has nothing to do with the fact that the cache was in a guardrail. Would the situation have been any different if the container was hidden under a pile of rocks/branches next to a big-a$$ tree alongside the guardrail? I don't think so.

I'm glad the situation was taken seriously by local law enforcement.

You are absolutely correct. The fact that this particular cache was a guardrail hide had nothing to do with the situation at hand and I will now retract that statement:

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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby The Mad Cow on Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:15 am

ok, but you guys dont know the whole story! The original cache hider had hid a DIFFERENT container, not the army decon container that was found. The original container was muggled and another cacher replaced the container with the decon container. I know bothe the original hider and the person who rehid the decon container. Both are wonderful people.

And the local police are now not pressing any charge against either of them.

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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby scoutingwv on Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:30 am

teamovcacher wrote:ok, but you guys dont know the whole story! The original cache hider had hid a DIFFERENT container, not the army decon container that was found. The original container was muggled and another cacher replaced the container with the decon container. I know bothe the original hider and the person who rehid the decon container. Both are wonderful people.

And the local police are now not pressing any charge against either of them.

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Help me understand what that changes.
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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby Rock_Rat on Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:55 am

Ok, the more I think about this the less the cache or police response becomes the things that bother me. From what I understand now the Moogles didn't even see a container, they saw, from the quote I heard "A person doing something" and freaked out about it calling the police. I hate to think we live in a day when people allow themselves to be that afraid and or nosy. Beyond that the police responding to a package they couldn't ID and then not pressing charges when there was clearly no ill intent seems the good and proper response.
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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby scoutingwv on Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:17 am

Rock_Rat wrote:Ok, the more I think about this the less the cache or police response becomes the things that bother me. From what I understand now the Moogles didn't even see a container, they saw, from the quote I heard "A person doing something" and freaked out about it calling the police. I hate to think we live in a day when people allow themselves to be that afraid and or nosy. Beyond that the police responding to a package they couldn't ID and then not pressing charges when there was clearly no ill intent seems the good and proper response.


I agree. That's what prompted my question to TeamOVCacher above. It seems to be all about the response, not the placement (sure - we can argue over whether or not it should have been in a better spot - but let's not).

I'm willing to bet the type of folks that called it in are eerily similar to the ones who rushed out to buy plastic and duct tape to protect themselves just because their government told them to and now they don't know what to do with all of that unsed crap in the basement.

THINK PEOPLE. JUST TAKE A FREAKING BREATH AND THINK FOR A SECOND. No, it will NOT hurt.

Good to see the police came around. Hope they're cachers now!
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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby wvwarlok on Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:28 am

I wonder how long it'll be before someone idiot actually does put something dangerous into a cache?
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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby scoutingwv on Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:31 am

wvwarlok wrote:I wonder how long it'll be before someone idiot actually does put something dangerous into a cache?


"Dangerous" leaves a lot of possibility. It's happened. Knives have been found, but I don't think anything explosive-like has been in a cache.

Well ... maybe the can of soda that was left in GC19 would count as an explosive. Never leave a can of soda as a trade item in a cache at 11,500 feet.

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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby Aquacache on Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:36 pm

scoutingwv wrote:"Dangerous" leaves a lot of possibility. It's happened. Knives have been found, but I don't think anything explosive-like has been in a cache.

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I've found fireworks in caches before. Does that count as "explosive"? ... Yes, I removed them.

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