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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby wvwarlok on Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:48 am

Aquacache wrote:I've found fireworks in caches before. Does that count as "explosive"? ... Yes, I removed them.

There wasn't a lighter in there too? Anyways, this from the Lobot mailer this morning.........

When placing a geocache, it is important to obtain permission and avoid placing a geocache in any location where it might be confused with something dangerous. Please take the time to ensure that your cache is appropriately placed and contributes to the positive experience of others.

Important things to consider when placing or maintaining your geocache:
1. Make sure that your geocache can easily be identified as a geocache.
2. Use a clear container, if possible, so that the contents are easily identified.
3. Identify your container as a geocache by marking the outside of the container or attaching an Official Geocache sticker.
4. Make sure that you have permission from the landowner to place your cache on their property.
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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby scoutingwv on Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:33 am

Aquacache wrote:
scoutingwv wrote:"Dangerous" leaves a lot of possibility. It's happened. Knives have been found, but I don't think anything explosive-like has been in a cache.

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I've found fireworks in caches before. Does that count as "explosive"? ... Yes, I removed them.


ooooo ... I didn't think of fireworks. I was thinking more dastardly stuff that would get a bomb squad involved. Now that I think about it, I've found lighters and matches in caches, too, and taken them out.
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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby The Mad Cow on Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:39 am

Your right ScoutingWV, it was the placement and the new container combined!! Let me explain:

1) the placement (which was actually a cool spot for a cache) was not thought out to good. The cache was placed in a guardrail close to a busy road! I actually considered placing a cache in a park next to the area that the cache was in. (only about 300 feet away from ground zero!) But was told that the business owner next to the park (and this is the guy who called the cops) wasn't the most friendly and would cause trouble, so I decided against placing a cache here. The location is an old bridge that has been closed to vehicle traffic but is still open to foot traffic. This bridge connects Ohio (Martins Ferry and Bridgeport) with West Virginia (Wheeling Island).

2) The person that placed the 2nd contained never labeled the container and had it in the end of the guard rail. When the muggle went to check the spot out AFTER the cacher left, all he saw was a green army decon container, not labeled as a cache and the top stating is was for military use. The old man must have freaked out!!

I am not sticking up for anyone that had to do with the cache. I think the area needed a great cache there but the location that they placed the cache was wrong.

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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby wvcoalcat on Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:46 am

Aquacache wrote:
scoutingwv wrote:"Dangerous" leaves a lot of possibility. It's happened. Knives have been found, but I don't think anything explosive-like has been in a cache.

...

I've found fireworks in caches before. Does that count as "explosive"? ... Yes, I removed them.


If they're inert are they still considered explosive?
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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby scoutingwv on Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:52 am

teamovcacher wrote:<snip>

1) the placement (which was actually a cool spot for a cache) was not thought out to good. <snip>

2) The person that placed the 2nd contained never labeled the container and had it in the end of the guard rail. When the muggle went to check the spot out AFTER the cacher left, all he saw was a green army decon container, not labeled as a cache and the top stating is was for military use. The old man must have freaked out!!

I am not sticking up for anyone that had to do with the cache. I think the area needed a great cache there but the location that they placed the cache was wrong.

TeamOVCacher


You have described a great reason for people to ALWAYS label their caches.

And I would completely understand you taking up for a local cacher - NO problem at all with someone doing that. But to me, the person isn't the issue as much as the reaction. I think we'd all be a bit better off if we looked at the behavior as more of the problem than the person and try to help correct it. And yep - one of the bahaviors in this case is not labeling the cache. That could have stopped the whole thing.

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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby scoutingwv on Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:57 am

wvcoalcat wrote:<snip> I've found some really cool WWII artifacts at Dolly Sods and thought they'd make great swag. <snip>


Off topic - Has anyone in here found something like that at the Sods or do you know anyone who has? With all the miles me and my friends have down there, I don't know anyone who ever has.

Guess I could stop carrying my chunk of 8lb. test gear with me when I hie there, huh Coalcat?

Back OT - Holy Crap Coalcat!
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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby wvcoalcat on Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:11 am

scoutingwv wrote:
Off topic - Has anyone in here found something like that at the Sods or do you know anyone who has? With all the miles me and my friends have down there, I don't know anyone who ever has.

Guess I could stop carrying my chunk of 8lb. test gear with me when I hie there, huh Coalcat?

Back OT - Holy Crap Coalcat!


I take them home before testing, that way I can practice *Leave no Trace* or bits and pieces for that matter. I've tried to get SWMBO to help but for some reason she refuses. :lol:

No one I know has come across anything but from what I've read it's highly likely there is a lot still out there. The last sweep, in 1998 IIRC, they mainly concentrated on trails and campsites. It's strongly recommended to not build any fires where there are no established fire rings. Hate to ruin those beany-weenies. :grin:

OT- If found and used for a container or swag, please remove any remaining markings.
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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby Aquacache on Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:06 am

wvcoalcat wrote:...

OT- If found and used for a container or swag, please remove any remaining markings.

I like that idea! I can see one of those things with a big green geocaching sticker on it. Who wants to be the FTF? :lol:

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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby Spotty Spotty Pony Girl on Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:03 pm

Aquacache wrote:
wvcoalcat wrote:...

OT- If found and used for a container or swag, please remove any remaining markings.

I like that idea! I can see one of those things with a big green geocaching sticker on it. Who wants to be the FTF? :lol:



I seem to recall a cache container that had written on it something along the lines of "This is not a bomb."

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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby wvcoalcat on Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:37 pm

Spotty Spotty Pony Girl wrote:
I seem to recall a cache container that had written on it something along the lines of "This is not a bomb."

:lol:


Me too :cool:
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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby wvhunter on Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:05 pm

wvcoalcat wrote:
Spotty Spotty Pony Girl wrote:
I seem to recall a cache container that had written on it something along the lines of "This is not a bomb."

:lol:


Me too :cool:

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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby joey0309 on Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:33 am

Rock_Rat wrote:
"On the box, it said: caution, poisonous and hazardous, use with care," said Lt. Andy Klotz.


Gotta love that. Although the reporters melodramatics's in the video where entertaining as well. Especially the part about the "So called game".


people these days are just afraid of everything.....its no wonder when you have a guy in the whitehouse who plays the fear card on a daily basis!

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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby Lledier on Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:54 pm

89SC wrote:"Inducing a panic" Unreal. America has gotten so wimpy. This shows why caching containers need to be clearly marked, especially the military ones.


Having been in the Army, I recognized that container for what it originally was...and I think it was a bad choice without covering the lid with a Geocache sticker.

That container is used for NBC treatment kit (Nuclear Biological Chemical) It usually contains a couple of alcohol wipes, and Two doses of a Nerve Agent treatment (and the antidote for the treatment)
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Re: 'Suspicious Package' Turns Out To Be A Game

Postby Knight who says Ni on Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:53 am

Lledier wrote:
89SC wrote:"Inducing a panic" Unreal. America has gotten so wimpy. This shows why caching containers need to be clearly marked, especially the military ones.


Having been in the Army, I recognized that container for what it originally was...and I think it was a bad choice without covering the lid with a Geocache sticker.

That container is used for NBC treatment kit (Nuclear Biological Chemical) It usually contains a couple of alcohol wipes, and Two doses of a Nerve Agent treatment (and the antidote for the treatment)



Interesting choice of container then. It is so much easier to use an ammo can with "GEOCACHE" on it or a nice bastard brown lock-n-lock.
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